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GOODave
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| Raidernationdave wrote: |
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You're right: I cannot be that dense; it is a physiological and psychological impossibility. Pity the same cannot be said about you, my brother.
You're also right that it was me who said "it has ALMOST neer been the case..." AND, because I stipulated ALMOST, I have no problem (neither logical flaw) in acknowledging the example you raised doesn't fall under my ALMOST never the case. That's kind of what ALMOST means: MOST will fall under the treatment, SOME might not. Simple, see it now? |
Dave, the whole of this conversation isn't about what I said remember? It's about how you thought when I was comparing rape victims I somehow was comparing them to the terrorist activity, remember? |
Well, uh, not exactly. We were talking about your stupid paralell between what a rape victim FEELS and how you can KNOW a terrorist....but I dispelled all that when I stipulated that, because I said "almost," I am perfectly comfortable stipulating that you don't know how a rape victim feels unless you've been a rape victim.
Gee, you really AREN'T very good at this, are you? Do you see how easily I stop your fallacies and misdirections in their tracks?
| raidernationdave wrote: |
| GOODave wrote: |
| ]...and demonstrably inaccurate, to boot. It has almost NEVER been the case that it takes one to know one. |
So, what you are now saying is that, on second thought, you suppose it is demonstrably accurate what I originally said, that it is SOMETIMES been the case that it takes one to know one.
Isn't that the point I was original making in my first post? I think so. |
Then you think in error. I said "almost never..." which does, as you point out, mean it CAN be the case or is SOMETIMES the case, but you didn't allow for that in your original, juvenile statement. You laid down the (schoolyard, "nya, nya ya missed me") mandate that it takes one to know one.
You simply cannot face the reality that it was a puerile thing to say.
I'm reminded of the story of the monkey who reached into the jar to snatch the peanut but could not withdraw his hand because clenching the peanut made his fist too big to get out of the opening of the jar.
He would not let go of the peanut for any reason so he sat there with his hand caught in the jar until he died of hunger.
Dave, I'm asking you to let go of the peanut. You have already lost this argument. There might or might not be future arguments you win, but your twisting and squirming, your misdirecting and obvious logical fallacies show you are firing blanks: You got nothing.
Let go of the peanut. Don't die there like that little monkey: Let go of the peanut and live to argue another day.
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Raidernationdave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Well, uh, not exactly. We were talking about your stupid paralell between what a rape victim FEELS and how you can KNOW a terrorist....but I dispelled all that when I stipulated that, because I said "almost," I am perfectly comfortable stipulating that you don't know how a rape victim feels unless you've been a rape victim. |
No, YOU were talking about that! I said in my original comment that, regarding terrorism, "It takes one to know one." The rape comment was in relation to what you said, not in any comparison to terrorism. Obviously, that point escaped you or you wouldn't have said:
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How is it you equate "rape" with "calling a terrorist organization a terrorist organization?" Try as I might, I JUST can't get your connection here. |
You missed that completely and now your arguing you knew what I was saying all along when in fact you clearly missed the point I was making regarding you being able to know anything how a rape victim feels.
Geez!  What a buffoon!
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| Gee, you really AREN'T very good at this, are you? Do you see how easily I stop your fallacies and misdirections in their tracks? |
No, I really don't. But I do see how completely inept you are at understanding rudimentary and basic English.
Next........... time....... I'll......... speak.......... much......... slower.......... so......... you....... can......... grasp.......... things......... easier.
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| Then you think in error. I said "almost never..." which does, as you point out, mean it CAN be the case or is SOMETIMES the case, but you didn't allow for that in your original, juvenile statement. |
Yes, so you were agreeing with me all along now weren't you Dave?
But that wasn't the context in which you approached it simply because you used the caveat, "not in this case" by simply saying that my original comment was:
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| demonstrably inaccurate |
or in essence, wrong.
By saying my comment was "demonstrably inaccurate" you were saying that my original statement "It takes one to know one" with respect to the united States being a terrorist state and hence knowing other terrorist states was wrong.
You said my statement was "demonstrably inaccurate" and hence wrong.
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| You laid down the (schoolyard, "nya, nya ya missed me") mandate that it takes one to know one. |
No, I made this statement, "It takes one to know one" prior to any comment by you. You found fault in this missive by saying it was "demonstrably inaccurate" remember.
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| You simply cannot face the reality that it was a puerile thing to say. |
This is incorrect as well.
I said specifically that:
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| I have to work with the audience I've been given Dave, what can I say! |
So, I was in concurrence that what I said was indeed childish, but that was necessary to reach the audience you provide.
You missed another one then in that regard, which again, does not surprise me!
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I'm reminded of the story of the monkey who reached into the jar to snatch the peanut but could not withdraw his hand because clenching the peanut made his fist too big to get out of the opening of the jar.
He would not let go of the peanut for any reason so he sat there with his hand caught in the jar until he died of hunger.
Dave, I'm asking you to let go of the peanut. You have already lost this argument. There might or might not be future arguments you win, but your twisting and squirming, your misdirecting and obvious logical fallacies show you are firing blanks: You got nothing.
Let go of the peanut. Don't die there like that little monkey: Let go of the peanut and live to argue another day. |
That's an amusing little diddy GOOD ave, it really is.
But then again, I don't seem to be the one arguing the about the context of a post you clearly did not understand. My advice, let it go Dave. Admit you missed the entirety of the context of a post that even the most basic simpleton could have gathered in and simply walk away.
No one will think any less of you than they already do if you just walk away from it.
Now again, just to recap, you say in retort to my "It takes one to know one" barb that:
| GOO Dave wrote: |
| What a puerile thing to say. |
To which I agreed by saying, "I have to work with the audience I've been given Dave, what can I say!" Which was clearly directed at you.
You went on further to say that that comments was:
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| demonstrably inaccurate, to boot. |
That is, as I understand it, saying in effect that my statement "It takes one to know one" was in fact wrong.
And lastly, you quipped:
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| It has almost NEVER been the case that it takes one to know one. |
To which I proceeded to give an example of how it is indeed difficult to know someone without spending a minute in their shoes by sarcastically retorting:
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| That's why I'm sure you could tell us all about the feelings and emotions that a woman goes through as the result of being a rape victim, huh Dave? |
To which you replied:
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| How is it you equate "rape" with "calling a terrorist organization a terrorist organization?" Try as I might, I JUST can't get your connection here. |
And again, lastly and the point I have been making since YOU brought this up is again this:
The reason you could draw no connection to my rape comment and terrorism is because there was no such connection to be drawn.
What an absolute buffoon you are!
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GOODave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| So, I was in concurrence that what I said was indeed childish, |
THERE now! Was that so difficult. You could have said this at the outset and saved yourself the humiliation of the whuppin' I've had to give you.
The first step towards a solution is recognizing you have a problem.
You're on your way now. Congratulations.
Dave I
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Raidernationdave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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I would have thought you'd quit setting yourself for ridicule and scorn due to a sincerely difficult case of having your headshovedupyourasssofar itmaynevercomeout, but I was wrong.
Apparently you don't seem to realize that you were the butt of the original joke. Oh, well.....
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| THERE now! Was that so difficult. You could have said this at the outset and saved yourself the humiliation of the whuppin' I've had to give you. |
I said that, and thus admitted such, at the very outset when I made the comment in the first place! Let's go over this one more time:
You said:
"What a puerile thing to say."
To which I retorted:
"I have to work with the audience I've been given Dave, what can I say!"
This comment was clearly directed at you and inferred, by it's content in relation to your statement, that you were a child.
Whew! Man, you are as dumb as a box of sticks!
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The first step towards a solution is recognizing you have a problem.
You're on your way now. Congratulations. |
"It takes one to know one!"
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GOODave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I would have thought you'd quit setting yourself for ridicule and scorn due to a sincerely difficult case of having your headshovedupyourasssofar itmaynevercomeout, but I was wrong.
Apparently you don't seem to realize that you were the butt of the original joke. Oh, well.....
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| THERE now! Was that so difficult. You could have said this at the outset and saved yourself the humiliation of the whuppin' I've had to give you. |
I said that, and thus admitted such, at the very outset when I made the comment in the first place! Let's go over this one more time:
You said:
"What a puerile thing to say."
To which I retorted:
"I have to work with the audience I've been given Dave, what can I say!"
This comment was clearly directed at you and inferred, by it's content in relation to your statement, that you were a child.
Whew! Man, you are as dumb as a box of sticks!
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The first step towards a solution is recognizing you have a problem.
You're on your way now. Congratulations. |
"It takes one to know one!" |
Awwww, and we were making such progress.
Rats, Now I'll bet you feel all defeated and dejected and depressed. But don't...you are bound to suffer some setbacks.
It's sufficient, for now, that you agreed with me (finally) that your comment was juvenile and punitive.
We'll work on letting go of the REST of that peanut at another time, K?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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"Im an ass and your an ass and anything else is just asinine" 
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Raidernationdave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Awwww, and we were making such progress.
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Actually, I don't think you are. You have obviously not given up and are content to continue to make a huge a** out of yourself.
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| Rats, Now I'll bet you feel all defeated and dejected and depressed. But don't...you are bound to suffer some setbacks. |
No, not at all. You've left me shaking my head at how anyone can be so utterly incapable of understanding simple, basic English.
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| It's sufficient, for now, that you agreed with me (finally) that your comment was juvenile and punitive. |
Yes, indeed, I agreed with this assessment when you said:
"What a puerile thing to say."
To which I retorted:
"I have to work with the audience I've been given Dave, what can I say!"
This comment was clearly directed at you and inferred, by it's content in relation to your statement, that you were a child.
You became the butt of my joke, my retort, when I admitted it was a juvenile statement made to a juvenile audience....you!
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| We'll work on letting go of the REST of that peanut at another time, K? |
Hey, whatever floats your boat my man. But if you want to keep makingacompleteandutterspecicleofyourselfandacompleteandutterassholeoutofyourselfbemyguest.
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Raidernationdave
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| "Im an ass and your an ass and anything else is just asinine" |
Pipe down Ear-ache......
I've seen you run in circles with this GOO Guy on many occasions before except I can't remember the GOO sticking on you for this long.
This is some truly "Crazy GOO."
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GOODave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Awwww, and we were making such progress.
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Actually, I don't think you are. You have obviously not given up and are content to continue to make a huge a** out of yourself.
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| Rats, Now I'll bet you feel all defeated and dejected and depressed. But don't...you are bound to suffer some setbacks. |
No, not at all. You've left me shaking my head at how anyone can be so utterly incapable of understanding simple, basic English.
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| It's sufficient, for now, that you agreed with me (finally) that your comment was juvenile and punitive. |
Yes, indeed, I agreed with this assessment when you said:
"What a puerile thing to say." |
OH, so you agree with me again?
You should be careful: You can strip your gears throwing it in reverse that fast.
So do you agree it was a juvenile thing to say or don't you?
Simple, direct, straightforward question: Do you have a direct answer? A simple "yes" or "no" will do.
Dave I
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Raidernationdave
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| GOODave wrote: |
| OH, so you agree with me again? |
I agreed with you in my first post and Isaid as much.
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You should be careful: You can strip your gears throwing it in reverse that fast.
So do you agree it was a juvenile thing to say or don't you?
Simple, direct, straightforward question: Do you have a direct answer? A simple "yes" or "no" will do. |
Yes! Yes! I agreed with you in my first post in response to this:
"What a puerile thing to say."
Remember I said:
"I have to work with the audience I've been given Dave, what can I say!"
This comment was clearly directed at you and inferred, by it's content in relation to your statement, that you were a child.
You became the butt of my joke, my retort, when I admitted it was a juvenile statement made to a juvenile audience....you!
So yes, I have consistently agreed with you that what I said was childish in light it was directed at a child!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Raidernationdave wrote: |
| Eric Reyes wrote: |
| "Im an ass and your an ass and anything else is just asinine" |
Pipe down Ear-ache......
I've seen you run in circles with this GOO Guy on many occasions before except I can't remember the GOO sticking on you for this long.
This is some truly "Crazy GOO." |
Well the reason Dave fails to stick is because I recognize he's as much an ass as you are and I recognize common ground is something found and experienced even amongst the indignant, intelligent, and ignorant. You are both being stupid, and frankly I could care less. But what I do care about is the wonderful laugh I get over and over again looking at what you each write to each other. And that is why we keep coming back here. What an experience.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Eric Reyes wrote: |
| Raidernationdave wrote: |
| Eric Reyes wrote: |
| "Im an ass and your an ass and anything else is just asinine" |
Pipe down Ear-ache......
I've seen you run in circles with this GOO Guy on many occasions before except I can't remember the GOO sticking on you for this long.
This is some truly "Crazy GOO." |
Well the reason Dave fails to stick is because I recognize he's as much an ass as you are and I recognize common ground is something found and experienced even amongst the indignant, intelligent, and ignorant. You are both being stupid, and frankly I could care less. But what I do care about is the wonderful laugh I get over and over again looking at what you each write to each other. And that is why we keep coming back here. What an experience. |
Inhaling your fecal matter again, eh sport?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Well the reason Dave fails to stick is because I recognize he's as much an ass as you are and I recognize common ground is something found and experienced even amongst the indignant, intelligent, and ignorant. |
Heh, heh, heh...
You got tired of getting your rear end handed to you over and over so you simply quit responding to me...and I'M the one who "fails to stick."
Yeah, you're one to hurl accusations, all right. 
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