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theLIBERTARIAN El Loco

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: Spanking |
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What is the best way to spank? Is it using a belt?
This is the way my dad did it. He would not use a belt, he would use his hand. He would make us pull down our pants. It did not matter where. He would make us bend over and hold our ankles. And then he would create the welt. If we stood up as he was spanking us we would get a second one. If we cried we would get a second one.
I asked him about it recently. He told me that it was important to bend over because if he hit the butt when the child was standing it could damage the spine of the child. He did not want to use a belt so that is why he pulled our pants down.
How do you spank your kids if you do? |
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theLIBERTARIAN El Loco

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, what threshold do you need before you spank? |
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Betty Nice Forum Guru

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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Our daughter is too young, but I do believe in spanking. I wouldn't make a whole production out of it though. I would probably do it with pants on and standing.
My Dad use to hit us with a belt with his name stamped on it. It was a thick leather belt. That sh*t stung with clothes on. He stopped using it on me when I was around twelve....that's when I started laughing after he hit me, so he stopped punishing me like that all together. My Dad has this glare that he throws (use to).....it'll make anyone quiver. I luckily got that stare down pat.....so I don't have to spank my daughter yet.....and it works on the husband too.  _________________
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aliaslezarddagain Forum Guru

Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 1490 Location: somewhere between the begining and the end
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bend er over and get er done..................r.e.a.l.....s.l.o.w......
I was talking about Betty Nice! 
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Anti War Forum Guru

Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 370
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| aliaslezarddagain wrote: |
Bend er over and get er done..................r.e.a.l.....s.l.o.w......  |
What if you child fights you and does not bend over? What then? _________________ It's time to get out of Iraq |
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GOODave Forum Guru

Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 6295 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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I do not spank, but I do "swat" because my (younger) kids are 2 and 4.
They both respond, basically, to knowing they have broken their fellowship with me (or their mom). A swat on the behind does it, a look does it, definitely "time out" does it...all at different thresholds.
For the defiance, it's a swat and a talk with me. For shouting or screaming, it's time out (up to 5 minutes...which KILLS the 4 year old, the 2 year old likes it...thinks it's fun ). Splashing water out of the bathtub gets the look.
I cannot imagine "beating" my kids; that would crush me (and them, no doubt). My dad was the disciplinarian in our family. He doled out the spanking with us over his lap and used his hand OR a belt (and our pants were up: No bare-butt spanks for us!
dave _________________ Now that he's president, if you question his tax policies, energy plans or health-care ambitions, you are “hoping he will fail” — and that, with the help of roundabout reasoning, is tantamount to hoping we cannot transcend race. -Jonah Goldberg, 8/20/09 |
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Fnord Fred Forum Guru

Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 1247 Location: West Coast USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Considering what a dismal failure spanking was for my parents, I wouldn't use it personally. Boredom is a much more powerful tool than pain when you're a kid. |
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aliaslezarddagain Forum Guru

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Anti War wrote: |
| aliaslezarddagain wrote: |
Bend er over and get er done..................r.e.a.l.....s.l.o.w......  |
What if you child fights you and does not bend over? What then? |
I was talking about Betty Nice!  |
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Jaded Forum Guru

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Spanking depends on the child, the offense, the intended result and how consistantly it is given.
I do believe in spanking, but I know the type of parent that I am. I know that the spanking is one of many tools that we use to train behavior. That is my end result; training. What makes it easy for me is that obedience was established immediately; from the cradle. That is something I could spend pages explaining and still not do it justice. Suffice it to say, my kids respond easily to discipline.
As for how to spank, I only know what worked for me.
1. A casual swat is a waste of time. If you are just trying to get their attention, a clap, snap or word can accomplish the same thing just as easily. By the time spanking is NECESARRY, getting their attention is moot.
2. My intent behind spanking is to make sure it never happens again. I probably spanked the kids a handful of times, but each and every time I hoped it was the last. To make it memorable, I made sure it hurt. Sorry. I know other people would not agree but I believe it is kinder to be harsh once and never address it again, than to be weak over and over and over again and never accomplish anything.
3. For my kids it was always bare bum, over the knee and with my bare hand. An open hand on the bum smarts and stings, but it does not cause lasting damage. It was short and to the point. They knew what they did. We all knew the consequences. There is time to talk about it but I don't think that is the best time.
4. Never ever ever ever ever spank a kid when you are angry. If you are angry, you might lose control and cause unintended damage. If the kid believes that you are responding in anger, he will believe that being physical is an acceptable response to anger. It isn't. The spanking is for the the offense, not the emotions.
5. I never apologized for spanking my kids. I apologize when I am wrong, but my actions did not result in the spanking. Theirs did. When all was said and done, they knew that.
Someone who does the same thing over and over again and expects different results is a fool. If spanking did not work, I would not have wasted my time with it. |
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Fnord Fred Forum Guru

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| You should be careful with rule #4 though: if you wait to cool down and THEN beat the crap out of your kids, there's a good chance they're going to have no clue what you want from them. |
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Betty Nice Forum Guru

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| aliaslezarddagain wrote: |
| Anti War wrote: |
| aliaslezarddagain wrote: |
Bend er over and get er done..................r.e.a.l.....s.l.o.w......  |
What if you child fights you and does not bend over? What then? |
I was talking about Betty Nice!  |
I knew who you were talking about!  _________________
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theLIBERTARIAN El Loco

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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| Jaded wrote: |
| 3. For my kids it was always bare bum, over the knee and with my bare hand. An open hand on the bum smarts and stings, but it does not cause lasting damage. It was short and to the point. They knew what they did. We all knew the consequences. There is time to talk about it but I don't think that is the best time. |
That is the way I do it. I have not spanked my daughter in over a year. The other day I had to. I have seen shows were parents spank their kids several times a day. The kids expect it every day and nothing ever changes.
That is a better post than I expected. Good one. |
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Evil Ash Forum Guru
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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My kids have plenty of leeway. I give them warnings (probably to many warnings if you ask me) and if it comes down to them deserving a spanking I'll chase them down and use my belt on their butts. If they get their hands in the way their hands get hit. In short if my kids actually reach the point where they need a spanking they get one and if they struggle they get it worse. You have to mean what you say when it comes to kids. Its for their own good. _________________ There are no mistakes made on the way to the inevitable - Me |
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djac75
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject: I agree with author |
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I agree with the article. I was raised with spankings and they never hurt me except the temporary way they were intended to. Deep down, kids want their parents to be unapologetically in charge of them and sometimes that involves having to bend over and take a spanking. Better that than to turn out to be undisciplined brats and later, undisciplined adults.
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theLIBERTARIAN El Loco

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: I agree with author |
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| djac75 wrote: |
| I agree with the article. I was raised with spankings and they never hurt me except the temporary way they were inteded to. Deep down, kids want their parents to be unapologetically in charge of them and sometimes that involves having to bend over and take a spanking. Better that than to turn out to be undisciplined brats and later, undisciplined adults. |
I think it was a great article also. Deb has an insight in the subject I think.
How is the weather up there in Michigan? We are considering moving to Minnesota.
Dan |
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