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Should FedEx Be Allowed To Hire Private Contractors
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric Reyes wrote:
Private contractors serve as employees. Those who serve should serve well, and be paid for it. Those who unite, scare the business owner. Private contractors serve at the business owner's pleasure, until they realize they could screw the business owner if they simply act like say, BLACKWATER.

Who should be dismantled? The BLACKWATER type employees under the guise of "contractor". Yeah. Of COURSE you don't "get it" Lib. You support kooks and the supporters of kooks.
it is an important distinction, Eric, that I'm sure the IRS took into account as to just what constitutes an "employee?"

Back a couple thousand years ago, I owned a janitorial business. I got my accounts from several different sources so when the IRS investigated ONE of those sources, they tried to say I was an employee of that business. I was able to show the owner of that business (and, thence, the IRS) that I got jobs from several different sources and not just one.

Unfortunately, that tuned the IRS into me and I wound up having to pay back SSI in the amount of $900 which only goes to show no good deed goes unpunished.

Anyway, one of the rules by which the government and related agencies determine whether or not a "contractor" is, in fact, an "employee," is the source of the "contractor's" income: If there is only one source, the IRS (et al) will typically insist they are an employee of that sole source of income.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure about that Dave? There are probably companies who cater to one basic customer - at least as far as I am concerned, that should not be the primary factor.

For me, the definition should take into account where the person works. When my wife wanted to sub things out in her computer business, the rules were that they could not work under her roof. They had to do it somewhere else.

The whole episode is great for UPS but bad for the consumer. We had UPS and FedEx compete for our business. This saved us and in return saved our customers money. Now, if you remove FedEx from the "GROUND" shipping equation, shippers have no choice and they keep their monopoly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOODave wrote:
Eric Reyes wrote:
Private contractors serve as employees. Those who serve should serve well, and be paid for it. Those who unite, scare the business owner. Private contractors serve at the business owner's pleasure, until they realize they could screw the business owner if they simply act like say, BLACKWATER.

Who should be dismantled? The BLACKWATER type employees under the guise of "contractor". Yeah. Of COURSE you don't "get it" Lib. You support kooks and the supporters of kooks.
it is an important distinction, Eric, that I'm sure the IRS took into account as to just what constitutes an "employee?"

Back a couple thousand years ago, I owned a janitorial business. I got my accounts from several different sources so when the IRS investigated ONE of those sources, they tried to say I was an employee of that business.

THAT would get me very angry for sure! I'd stick whatever contract made with that company up the owner's "wazoo".



I was able to show the owner of that business (and, thence, the IRS) that I got jobs from several different sources and not just one.

Unfortunately, that tuned the IRS into me and I wound up having to pay back SSI in the amount of $900 which only goes to show no good deed goes unpunished.


Well, even if I were to say "count your blessings" because the penalty isn't too harsh....STILL...the fareekin principle of the matter is irksome. I'm sorry you had to go through that b.s.



Anyway, one of the rules by which the government and related agencies determine whether or not a "contractor" is, in fact, an "employee," is the source of the "contractor's" income: If there is only one source, the IRS (et al) will typically insist they are an employee of that sole source of income.

dave


^This rule is true. I HATE IT...but its true. Sad The thing is, you know that you really were not an employee. You simply provided a service for a fee THEY decided to pay via payroll. As long as you cashed those checks....well... anyway...it sucks. Sorry to hear about it. Lesson learned and all that.

Hey, I used to clean grease ducts. I had all kinds of accounts and did pretty good as a matter-o-fact. I got away with receiving and reporting methods of payment and said nothing about it. I was not ETHICAL. But my wife showed me that doing the right thing in business transactions, was always the best policy. Listening to her "advice"...(whether I liked it or not Laughing) .....paid off best in the long term).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, but you started out as a theif!!.......thats okay, as long as it was against your beloved govt. and IRS, it was all good!! Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough^ . Parataxic Distortion and Transference.
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